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News and Events - 2008

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CONTENTS


ARTICLES & NEWS

EVENTS

ORGANIZATION OF THE GUILD

VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES

OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS

WORK OPPORTUNITIES


ARTICLES


EVENTS


March 28 - Friday - Slideshow: How to Grow All Your Own Produce in 2½ Years: An(r)Evolution Disguised as Organic Gardening by Marisha Auerbach

  • 7 pm - 9 pm
  • Vashon Co-housing, 10421 SW Bank Rd., Vashon Island, WA
  • $10 - $7, sliding scale suggested donation
  • Call 360-943-5262 for more information or email queenbee@herbnwisdom.com

In the Maritime Northwest, it is possible to grow all our own food year-round with limited time to establish a system and limited effort. As petroleum becomes more expensive, this sort of system can provide an example to support our evolution to a more sustainable society. Marisha Auerbach specializes in how to convert properties from grass to to a perennial forage system. A perennial forage system functions much like a natural ecological system, and yields year round produce with minimal work. These systems are developed to meet the needs of the inhabitants on site. Marisha provides most of her diet and income from her garden and has surplus produce and crafts to give away and trade for other supplies.

This presentation is an invitation for you to visit Marisha's garden through slides and philosophy. She will be discussing how you can work towards self-reliance in produce if you have property to work with as well as guerrilla tactics to grow more food and flowers in the greater Olympia area. As petroleum becomes more expensive, fruits, vegetables, and other goods will become increasingly more expensive to transport into residential areas. This workshop offers an opportunity to create cultural change through gardening.

Please park on Bank Rd.


  ---  PLANT SALE  ---

Sat., April 26th, 9:00-4:00 / Sun., April 27th, 10:00-3:00 and

Sat., May 10th, 9:00-4:00 / Sun., May 11th, 10:00-3:00

Ready for Tomatoes??????

  • Backyard Greenhouse
  • 7939 28th Ave. SW
  • (between Holden & Thistle in West Seattle)
  • Veggies / Perennials / Herbs
  • Organically Grown

Bring neighbors, friends and family!—Come rain or shine!!


April 5th - Saturday, 1-5pm - Water Catchment Workshop

Design & install a rainwater catchment system for your yard & garden. Learn how to connect large tanks to your downspouts to collect winter rains off your roof, and use gravity to provide a guilt-free supply of water for irrigating your garden in the dry summer months.

Advance registration required ($25)

Space limited. For registration & location information, please email: Biwatershedcouncil@hotmail.com


April 5th - Saturday - SPG Movie Night/Potluck - "Fridays at the Farm"

The film: "Feeling disconnected from their food, a filmmaker and his family decide to join a local community supported organic farm. As he photographs the growing process, the filmmaker moves from passive observer to active participant in the planting and harvesting of vegetables."

Also come if you want to learn about ways to participate in hosting or planning SPG related events.

  • 5pm potluck
  • 6pm Movie

At: Steve's

  • 12009-26th Ave So
  • Seattle 98168
  • 206-650-0760

Please RSVP to geodesic.steve@gmail.com


Sunday, April 6: Ecological Citizenship forum: Locally & Globally with Marcus Berg & Marisha Auerbach, sponsored by SEEDS, Vashon Island, WA

  • 2 pm - 5:30 pm
  • Havurat Ee Shalom, 15401 Westside Highway, Vashon Island, WA
  • FREE of charge - donations welcome
  • Call (206) 567-4765 or email mysticgathering@gmail.com for more information

This forum features presentations on the severity of the ecological crisis, and the need for change, both individual and collective; as well as examples of ecological citizenship, global and local. It will also include discussions on; how to move from consumer action to citizen action; linking ecological citizenship and democracy; greening Vashon. We will invite participants to help SEEDS create a green map of Vashon.

More info here

Interested in carpooling to Vashon from Seattle, contact Steve at geodesic.steve@gmail.com


April 12th - Saturday - Productive Vegetable Gardening in Small Spaces: Planning Raised Beds and Containers

  • Description:

Has a lack of garden space kept you from growing vegetables? Learn how to garden in containers or raised beds and enjoy the delicious freshness of home-grown veggies. Discover the advantages containers can offer over growing in the ground. Learn how raised beds improve fertility and drainage and allow you to garden in spots you wouldn't otherwise have been able to use. We'll discuss what makes a good container, how to make a raised bed, soil and fertilizers, insects, diseases, and weeds, and what to grow when. Join us, and don't go another season without a harvest of fresh veggies you've grown yourself!

  • Start Time: 10:30 am End Time: 12:00 pm
  • Location: Friends Meeting Room, Lake Forest Park

Contact: Mark Phillips Email: msphillips1@comcast.net Phone: 206-388-7284

  • Location Details

Friends Meeting Room 17171 Bothell Way NE Lake Forest Park WA 98155 USA

  • Directions

In Lake Forest Park Towne Centre at the intersection of Bothell Way NE (SR 522) & Ballinger Way NE (SR 104). The glassed-in meeting room is located between Kitto and Gemelli's.


April 16th - 7-9pm - Bainbridge Permaculture Guild April Meeting: Poultry

At Holly Lane Gardens (see direction to right), in the house at the top of the driveway. The topic of the evening is poultry - chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys. Bring your favorite poultry raising methods and stories to share with others.

Consider how incorporating a few chickens in your backyard permaculture site can fill niches and serve multiple needs.

Of course we’ll also talk about whatever is on people’s minds, as we usually do at these informal monthly gatherings.


April 18 - Friday - Home Gardens in Permaculture Design with Rick Valley

  • 7 pm - 9 pm
  • Vashon Co-Housing, 10421 SW Bank Rd., Vashon, WA
  • $10 - $7, sliding scale
  • For more information, or to register, contact Marisha Auerbach (360)943-5262 or queenbee@herbnwisdom.com

Join experienced permaculture designer Rick Valley on a journey through permaculture projects mostly in the northwest and witness non-standard garden methods that have been proven successful. Tonight's event will include: mound beds, hot hoop houses, compost tractors, compost hot-beds, sheet mulching, garden composting, brush drains, and swales. He will also be discussing extending the garden season for your winter food supply. A seed swap will follow this event. Bring your seeds to share! Enhance your garden and your diet by joining us this evening.

Please park on Bank Rd.


April 18th Friday - 7pm - How Permaculture Can Save Humanity and the Planet But Not Civilization - Lecture by Toby Hemenway

At the Good Shepherd Center, Seattle - Room 202

$10 tickets available at http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/31549

More info flyer -here-


April 19th - Saturday - 10am -4pm - Workshop - Permaculture For Sustainable Cities

At the Good Shepherd Center, Seattle - Room 202

$40- Preregistration required at http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/31555 or email faith@ecologyofhealth.com

More info flyer -here-

Bring a baglunch and dress weather appropriately for outside forays.


April 20 - Sunday - Enhancing Your Spring Garden with Permaculture Techniques with Marisha Auerbach & Rick Valley

  • 10 am - 5 pm, brown bag lunch
  • The Dolstad Family Farm: 12108 SW 148th, Vashon Island, WA
  • $50-$40 sliding scale
  • For more information, or to register, contact Marisha Auerbach (360)943-5262 or queenbee@herbnwisdom.com

Interested in carpooling to Vashon from Seattle, contact Steve at geodesic.steve@gmail.com

Permaculture is a design system that aids us in identifying our resources and needs to create abundant landscapes. This workshop will feature several techniques to create no dig garden beds using waste resources. We will highlight simple ways to increase nutrient availability in your garden as well as methods for minimizing water usage. This workshop will feature several underutilized specialty food crops to diversify one's locally grown diet. Handouts and links to further resources will be provided. Please join us.

Rick Valley is Lost Valley Educational Center's land steward, a Permaculture teacher in the Northwest & British Columbia since 1987. A graduate of the Evergreen State College, Marisha Auerbach has been studying, practicing, and teaching permaculture in Western Washington for over ten years with particular emphasis on local economics and perennial forage systems for local foodsheds.


April 23rd - Wednesday - 7-9pm - PEAK OIL by Charlie Stephens - Part of the NW EcoBuilding's 2008 Educational Series.

Without realizing it, most people are banking on a future that can't happen. That future is essentially a minor variation on the present, with improvements. The much more likely future is one with something we've never encountered as a society on a long-term basis serious constraints. But there are constraints on the present, not on the future.

Charlie will explain most if not all of the opportunities that lie beyond the rough stretch of road we're heading into.

Where:

  • Phinney Neighborhood Association
  • Lower Brick Building - Basement
  • (Follow the signs)
  • 6532 Phinney Ave N

Cost:

  • Free for NW Ecobuilding Guild members
  • $5 Donation for Non-Members

Contact:

  • David Vollan - education@cps.ecobuilding.org


Several years ago, Griggs transformed his backyard in Wallingford into a "personal p-patch", where a handful of neighbors can grow organic food, compost food scraps, and share garden knowledge and resources. I was lucky enough to meet Griggs and score a plot just when I became interested in vegetable gardening. The joy and awesomeness of that experience for all involved led us to start wondering how we could encourage more of this sort of collaboration throughout the many neighborhoods of Seattle, and perhaps beyond.

We talked about the massive amount of food generated and energy saved in the famous WWII Victory Gardens, and the ironic parallels with today's global issues of climate change, natural disaster, food security, economic downturn and oil dependence. We did a bit of research and discovered some exciting new movements popping up across the country, including several "Food Not Lawns" chapters throughout California, nine prototype "Edible Estates" stretching from Austin to Baltimore, an Iowa group called Backyard Abundance, and a project in San Francisco called Victory Gardens 2007+. We believe that Seattle, with its extended growing season and amazing wealth of gardening and permaculture knowledge (Seattle Tilth rocks!), is a natural spawning ground for the movement. We aimed to create an Abundant Yards model here that could be used as a springboard for similar movements in cities and towns across the nation.

We began talking and brainstorming with many of you, and were floored by the outpouring of enthusiasm and great ideas. We put together a nice little starter website: abundantyards.org (thanks Josh!), which many people have stumbled upon and contacted us. We also observed and blogged a couple 'pilot gardens' last season, while we let the ideas percolate.

Now I feel we have gathered enough information to begin providing real support and resources for people who are interested in turning all or part of their lawn/rooftop/parking strip into a food garden. My current vision for helping a person/people do this is to organize a workparty or two for them, inviting the person's neighbors as well as AY team members and their shovels/seeds/know-how. I think it will be relatively easy to obtain donated materials from local garden supply stores, as well as donated refreshments, and perhaps AY could help people apply for small neighborhood improvement grants in certain situations as well. I believe that mentoring relationships and collaborations will naturally grow out of these workparties. I also see the involvement of local companies such as Seattle Urban Farm Co. and Cascadia Edible Landscapes as being potentially very beneficial for all.

Hope to see many of you later this week to catch up and hear more of your ideas! I'm planning to be at *Chaco Canyon Cafe* in the U-District (southwest corner of 50th and 12th Ave) on *Thurs 5-6:30pm* and *Fri 10-11:30am*. I'd love to see you there, even for a short time.


THE BODYVERSITY: Body, Community and the Great Turning space is limited--pre-registration recommended.

In THE BODYVERSITY, we will consider body-based practices as a University--a place where we come to deepen our understanding and seek Unity in our education. Since our body is our primary link to the Earth, a variety of mindbody disciplines will inspire our work. Simple games based in movement, sound and story will be used to create community dialogue around the pivotal Earth activism of our time: "The Great Turning" of humanity towards a just and sustainable culture.

This weekend workshop will include a presentation on the fundamentals of permaculture design by Jenny Pell, morning yoga warmups with Michael Suzerris, somatic arts and discussion facilitated by Nala Walla, as well as optional ecstatic dance, hikes, beachwalks and feasting. Many of our explorations will be loosely based around the "Reconnecting Work" of Joanna Macy and other groundbreaking whole-systems theorists.

All events will take place in spectacular Fort Worden State Park, and are accessible to every-body, welcoming a spectrum of experience and physical ability levels. The only requirement is a spirit of openess and curiosity towards our ever-evolving community. Come participate in this affordable weekend full of ecology, dance, and nature!

SCHEDULE:

  • May 2/3/4
  • Fri 7-9pm permaculture and bodyversity introduction
  • Sat 10-11 am yoga • 11am-12pm lunch
			• 12-4pm bodyversity and discussions
  • Sun 8:30-9:45am yoga • 10-11:30 ecstatic dance (optional/$9)
			• 12:30-4 bodyversity and discussions

WHERE:

  • Madrona Mindbody Institute
  • Fort Worden State Park
  • Port Townsend, WA

CONTRIBUTION:

  • $75 for Olympic Peninsula Residents
  • $125 non-residents
  • NO ONE TURNED AWAY - please contact us if you have special financial circumstances.

NOTE: FRIDAY NIGHT introduction is open to the public. $10 Admission

REGISTRATION: send $35 deposit along with name, address, email address and phone # to: *Madrona Mindbody Institute (MMI)

  • 200 Battery Way, Bldg. 310
  • Port Townsend, WA 98368
  • 360.344.4475
  • http//:www.madronamindbody.com

please contact MMI with questions and suggestions for accomodations.


May 14th - Wednesday - Local Food Year-Round: Simple Methods for Preserving Fresh Fruits and Vegetables

  • Start Time: 6:30 pm End Time: 8:30 pm
  • Location: Third Place Commons Stage
  • Description

It's not too early to start thinking about preserving food for next winter! Think now about options for food preservation so you can plan your garden for year-round eating. Come learn some safe, simple techniques for saving the flavors of summer to enjoy in the dark season of root vegetables! This class focuses on jam and jelly making, fruit canning and dehydrating fruits and vegetables. Preserving your own food saves money and provides delicious, satisfying tastes to bring back memories of summer bounty.

  • Contact: Mark Phillips

Email: msphillips1@comcast.net Phone: 206-388-7284

  • Location Details

Third Place Commons Stage 17171 Bothell Way NE Lake Forest Park WA 98155 USA

  • Location Phone: 206-366-3333
  • Directions

In Lake Forest Park Towne Centre at Bothell Way NE & Ballinger Way NE.


Beginning June - 72 Hour Permaculture Design Course - One weekend a month for 6 months

Location TBA

The Permaculture Design Course encompasses:

  • Localized food Production
  • Organizing Eco-Neighborhoods
  • Simple Steps toward Sustainable Lifestyles and Communities
  • Natural Building and Property Development
  • Adding Beauty and Value to your Home
  • Strategies for Energy Descent and Peak Oil
  • Green business Strategies and Finding your Right-Livelihood

For more info email faith@ecologyofhealth.com


8th Annual Advanced Permaculture Course in Teaching with Jude Hobbs & Tom Ward June 5-11, 2008

Empower yourself to advocate for sustainable living and design! In this dynamic, interactive, and fun course, learn powerful teaching techniques that communicate whole systems education and Permaculture principles for a wide variety of settings.

This Teacher Training unfolds like a design methodology and supports the Permaculture Design Course Curriculum by modeling various teaching techniques. We believe each course or workshop to be taught, needs to address unique local conditions. Each participant will offer several presentations, providing essential hands-on practice.

Jude and Tom have a combined experience of over 40 years of teaching and design. Their commitment to encouraging diverse learning and teaching styles guides the participants to develop, with confidence, their unique strengths and talents.

This course is certified by the Cascadia Permaculture Institute.

Course Topics Include:

Philosophy and Ethics of Instruction Teaching Systems, Principles and Patterns Planning, Marketing, and Economics Adult Learning Styles Organizing Curriculum and Resources Integrating Gender Balance Teaching Space Logistics Team Teaching Presentations and Facilitators Roles Time Management Exercises and Media Aids Interns and Apprentices Evaluations and Feedback Keeping Up The Spirit

Jude Hobbs is a horticulturist, Permaculture designer, and co-founder of Cascadia Permaculture Institute. Since 1982, she has provided whole system design solutions for urban and rural settings. Jude has taught Permaculture workshops and courses, in the private and public sectors, developing curricula that encompass diverse learning styles. She is the author of the OSU Bulletin: A Guide to Multi-Functional Hedgerows. Jude tends a diverse 7.5 acre site in Cottage Grove Oregon. www.cascadiapermaculture.com Tom Ward is an ethno-botanist, eco-forester and Permaculture designer. He has extensive multi-cultural experience in the USA and overseas. He is the author of Greenward Ho: An Ecological Approach to Sustainable Health. Tom has developed curricula for permaculture courses at Laney College and D-Q University in California. He has taught Permaculture Design Courses for 18 years and is based in Ashland, Oregon.

Tuition: $675-750 (includes course materials, organic meals, & camping) Prerequisite: Permaculture Design Course Certificate or experience in Permaculture Location: Wolf Gulch Farm, Little Applegate River, Southern Oregon

For more information visit: wwwcascadiapermaculture.com or to register, contact: Denise at permaculturerocks@yahoo.com 541-688-1442


June 16 - August 8, 2008: Ecovillage and Permaculture Certification Program, Lost Valley Education Center, Dexter, OR

Integrating Sustainability for the Land, the Built Environment, and for Human Communities on the Village Scale and Beyond....

Learn solutions to environmental and social problems that you can implement in your own life, in your local community, and on larger scales. Develop skills that will help you foster communities that are more ecologically regenerative, socially cooperative, and personally satisfying.

"Creating a new culture of living peacefully with each other and the planet is our number one need." --Hildur Jackson

  • Permaculture Design Certification

The 2 week Permaculture Design Course provides a holistic overview of the concepts and practices of permaculture. Topics include: • organic gardening • forest gardening • natural building • eco-forestry • appropriate technology • renewable energy • social sustainability • urban applications •

  • Ecovillage and Permaculture Design

Through personalized instruction and hands on application, the Ecovillage and Permaculture Design Course immerses participants in the theoretical, physical, and social aspects of ecovillages, community living, and permaculture. It includes a 72-hr Permaculture Design Course and provides a deeper exploration of the standard permaculture curriculum. You will also have the opportunity to explore subjects that are not usually covered in other permaculture design courses, such as: • intentional community operations • ecovillage design • personal growth • interpersonal dynamics • health and well-being • integral_perspective • simple living skills • earth-based crafts •

The longer time frame of the Ecovillage and Permaculture program also allows for more experiential education through extended hands-on activities and the profound experience of living in community. You will have the opportunity to develop your knowledge and skills with an incredible team of experienced residential instructors and nationally known guest instructors. Our courses are led by some of the most experienced permaculture teachers in the United States.

We can help students at most colleges receive course or internship credit for this program. for more information, contact (541) 937-3351 or events@lostvalley.org


November 26 - December 9: Winter Permaculture Design Course, Lost Valley Education Center, Dexter, OR with Jude Hobbs, Rick Valley, and Marisha Auerbach

(See the June 16th-Aug 8th course for further information. )

Please note: This course is a Permaculture Design Course and does not include the Ecovillage and Community Curriculum offered in the longer Summer Program.


ORGANIZATION OF THE GUILD


Non tribe members can send event info to seattlepermacultureguild@gmail.com. This info will be compiled by a rotating volunteer twice a month and posted to the permaculture website, the tribe, and emailed to the guild list. If you've planned an event, and didn't make the newsletter, take advantage of tribe and post your event there.

  • We are going to aim for meeting once a month for folks interested in making sure the guild is running smoothly. Please come!
  • Organization of events and volunteers will be headed by whoever cares about the specific task the most! If you have an event idea, etc. consider organizing it. If not, perhaps post it on the guild¡¦s wiki and someone else might pick it up.
  • For members who like networking online, want to check on last minute events, or post last minute stuff, etc.

check out the Seattle Permaculture Guild at http://tribes.tribe.net/seattlepermacultureguild and join the tribe.


VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES


  • More events needed. Please organize one and send updates to seattlepermacultureguild@gmail.com.
  • Collect info on PC sites around town
  • Write/share articles on any topic related to permaculture
  • Create display for tabling at events
  • Staff table at upcoming events (eg Fremont Solstice Parade)

  • Volunteer(s) needed to work with Sustainable Seattle on their 'Regional Sustainability Information Commons'. Seattle has needed a project like this for a long time! Help bring some permaculture knowledge to the table! This project will gather "indicator" data from around the Greater Seattle, and Puget Sound area in a website, so sustainability indicators can be held in a framework, and for users, be it citizens, students, business and policy makers, to understand not only indicators and associated sustainability goals, but the relationships of different indicators to one another. For more information visit here or contact Gary Lichtenstein at -gary at sustainableseattle dot org-.


OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS


Hi, my name is Alex Epstein and i am the VP of the permaculture club at the University of Puget Sound. We are pretty much brand new but have big aspirations. I noticed your site and knowing the nature of guilds felt that it would do us good to get in contact with you folk. Right now we have a grant application in at the University, which we feel very hopeful about, asking for the resources to convert an empty lot on campus to a permaculture and native plant garden. We would have somewhat limited resources but one of our hopes was to hire a permaculture expert who knows the puget sound land and could help us plan the garden. If you know of anyone who might be up to the task we would be very grateful. Any suggestions or ideas or comments would appreciated as well. contact: aepstein365@gmail.com


Hi. My name is Justin.

I have a whole bunch of tree seeds; paw paws, ginkgos, stone fruits, nuts, etc. I usually grow them in pots in a green house for the first season, then break 'em up and transplant them. I have pots, but I am looking for:

1) Greenhouse space 2) Bed space

Along with the "pots in a greenhouse" tech, I'd like to tuck some seeds in a bed someplace, and see what my success rate is. I've done pretty well outside in the past; want to try different soil types, top dresses, depths, amendments, etc.

I dun run out uh space! Know of any space I could use/lease/contribute to? I'd be happy to donate some fruit trees, teach propagation techniques, do some small-scale design, contribute to current projects etc. in return. I would want the greenhouse space through Spring, and the bed space through Fall.

Justin Hanseth 206.849.1980


Want to buy land for an eco-agriculture community? by Michael Pilarski(09/10/07)

In my search for land to live on, one possible avenue is for me to link up with other people and purchase land. If you are interested in purchasing land for a small farming community devoted to research and education, get in touch. I am researching possibilities in Okanogan County. friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com


Hey there all, For those interested in the guerrilla gardening project, we have 3 beds completed along the Burke Gilman next to I-5, there are 2 vegetable beds and 1 herb bed (the Tea garden) but room for many more.

I also want to let you know that we have gotten web space for the guerrilla gardening project, which we have been calling the U-Farm. The site is http://www.U-Farm.org and so far we have a forum up and working. We are going to have regular updates of what has been going on, as well as scheduling for work parties, watering and other topics. To join the forum click the 'register' link at the top right and follow the directions. So please feel free to start discussions, and advertise work parties.

Hope to hear from everyone soon, -Josh


What's the difference between a smelly old outhouse and a Composting Toilet?

Interested in Composting Toilets? Workshop location and materials available for July or Aug workshop if anyone with expertise or a special sort of passion wants to see one built in NE Seattle. I got the some books from the library, anyone have any recent info or been involved in building one locally? Contact Lacia 206-356-7768 or email preferred LLB101@excitecom with "composting toilet" in the subject so the junk mail filters don't get you.


Greetings! I have been nestling into my new location in Olympia, Fertile Ground Guesthouse and Community Center.

This beautiful example of urban permaculture is on a double lot in downtown Olympia, directly behind the Timberland Library.

We are available to host many events, including pizza parties for local non-profits using our cob oven.

Fertile Ground will be the location for many upcoming events in the future. We have diverse facilities here at Fertile Ground, including a great kitchen for classes, musical instruments, and a studio/classroom space with projection possibilities. Please contact me if you are interested in using our space for your event as well.

Check out our website at http://www.fertileground.org

And here for calendar of events: http://www.fertileground.org/community/calendar.html



WORK OPPORTUNITIES


Posted 3/26/08:

Internship Opportunity for straw bale and natural plasters, Summer 2008 on Lopez Island in Washington.

Lopez Community Land Trust (LCLT) is building eleven affordable homes as part of a sustainable building project. We are seeking a limited number of interns to lead straw bale and plaster teams. Our staff will train the interns in straw bale and plaster techniques, who in turn will lead and train others on site. Interns must be motivated, physically capable of working on a construction site, and be willing to work with and train others. Experience with natural building methods is not necessary.

Internships require a minimum six-week commitment & four days per week on site. They receive $100 per week stipend for food and expenses. Housing and/or tenting are available, and may require a day of labor in exchange.

For more information, see http://www.lopezclt.org or contact LCLT at 360-468-3723 or lcltadmin@rockisland.com

Thank you, and please call if you have any questions!

  • Jan Scilipoti, Assistant Director
  • Lopez Community Land Trust
  • PO Box 25
  • Lopez Island, WA 98261
  • 360-468-3723
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